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Kiru20
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(11/20/01 6:54 am)
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Enki
Of all the gods, Enki is my personal favorite. I think that's because he perfectly fits my personality. Who else here favores Enki?

~Kiru~

Liztar
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(11/20/01 9:06 am)
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Re: Enki
Hello, Kiru, and delighted to see we share the same fave god. He is my favorite too... so far...
:D
Other favorites are Nergal and Nanna.

Welcome welcome and happy be in our blessed society!
regards,
Lishtar

From the Depths and To the Heights to share in all spheres

Kiru20
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(11/20/01 12:02 pm)
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Thank you!
Well you're just a happy frolicky kinda person, aren't ya. That's good. I always love to see joy. Not too much of that in my current location, though I try being a friend to everybody.

Thank you for that kind welcome. This is my favorite site about such things. Oh hell, I spend most of my time here, as of late. My other favorite is my own. Probably because it's mine, but it's also because I have pretty much everything. And anything I don't have, I link to a site that does have it. It's supposed to be for a certain group of people, who practice and learn everything. So the site, in order to compliment the group, must have pretty much everything. But there are still somethings I cannot put on it. The secret stuff has its reasons. All of which are good, or they wouldn't be kept secret. I love letting everybody know what others won't tell ya.


~Kiru~

Liztar
ezOP
(11/20/01 3:56 pm)
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Re: Thank you!
No need to thank me or us :D We are supposed to be building a community of Mesopotamians in the Soul. You asked interesting questions with your threads...

Let´s enjoy finding the answers and everything else!

best,
Lishtar

PS: When you feel ready, give us the URL of your site!

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enki107
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(11/21/01 12:59 pm)
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Enki is my fav too.
I feel like my personality is similar to Enki's as well. Plus, I've always loved gods of wisdom and magic. I'd have to say that Enki was my fav god of all mythologies in fact. :)

Liztar
ezOP
(11/21/01 2:09 pm)
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Re: Enki is my fav too.
:) Enki/Ea and Inanna/Ishtar, two of the all-times fave Mesopotamian goods, can be very much considered the God and Goddess of the New Millennium as the Dynamic Non-Paternal and the Dynamic Non-Maternal Masculine and Feminine.

I am a little bit tired tonight, but basically as we discover our potential as doers and creators in all worlds, we need the Wisdom Through Reflexive Learning, Lust and Empowerment given by Enki and the Wisdom through Applied Experience and Knowledge, Passion, Drive and Play embodied by Inanna.

No wonder both have great passages in myth together!!!

And I give thanks to the board, because... you all have gone beyond all my expectations!!!

courteous bows and kiss blown to the Lord of the Sweet Waters of the Deep from,
Lishtar

From the Depths and To the Heights to share in all spheres

Liztar
ezOP
(11/21/01 6:27 pm)
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Re: Enki is my fav too.
Jeffrey wrote to me to say that The Twin Rivers Rising, Adapa´s and Esharra´s website, is back online!!!
:rollin :) :rollin :) :rollin :) :rollin :)

I think the world, the stars and the universe of both of them, and knew of their URL for some time, but because he hadn´t released the site officially, I did not share it with you. The essay that I intend to do on Inanna and Enki is intended as a gift to Adapa, the first essay which is not going to be uploaded in Gateways, but in his and Esharra´s site. Still feel incredibly honoured for Adapa having included some of my retellings of Mesopotamian myths in the Myths section of The Twin Rivers Rising. He put them online back in 1997. Detail: my magickal name before Lishtar was Starlight.

So visit www.dansullivan.org and explore in special the Essays and the Sumerian-English dictionary. The essays on Creation and Magick and Hermeticism are masterworks. My two favourite essays of all times are the essays on Religion, which I have the privilege to host also in Gateways (A treaty of Mesopotamian Religion, by Adapa) and the essay I would love to have written myself (in Gateways and PagansOnLine), called A call for pagan scholarship.

I wish fervently Babyloniaca will be back online veeeeeeeeery soon too. Adapa and Esharra of the Twin Rivers and Shemhazai of Babyloniaca are the sources of inspiration for Gateways. They´ve shown incredible generosity to me... I am so very proud of the message Shem wrote in Gateways2Bab GuestBook. :)

Shem and Adapa were probably the first Mesopotamians to go public and online in the web. They are still the very best. If Adapa is my Archetypal Learned Mystic, Shem is the Archetypal Ritual Mesopotamian Magician :) Have yet to find a website on Mesopotamia that has the quality and standards both the Twin Rivers and Babyloniaca have... I am wearing the scorpion man and woman broche Shem sent me one of these years...

It is fitting that this message is posted by Thanksgiving, because... I will never forget the afternoon at work when I first visited Shem´s Babyloniaca, and then to the Twin Rivers Rising, the Jewish-Pagan list, Lilinah´s Canaanite temple.

My life changed and... we are here now!
And it is veeeeeery good to be "companioned".

love, light and laughter, good night and best of everything in all worlds,
Lishtar

From the Depths and To the Heights to share in all spheres

Edited by: Liztar at: 5/9/02 9:31:37 am
Liztar
ezOP
(5/9/02 9:27 am)
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On Enki (found in the Net)
There has been more written about Enki than any other Sumero-Akkadian deity. The importance of water in a hot, dry and arid climate may explain why Enki, the water-god, played such a prominent role in the creation myths of Sumer (Kramer & Maier).

In addition to being the water-god, Enki was the god of wisdom and craftiness. It's possible that wisdom and craftiness spawned from his designation as water-god. The building of irrigation cannals on the otherwise arid plains of southern Mesopotamia are what allowed Sumer to bourgen into humankind's first known urban civilization. For this very reason, it is possible that water was associated with the genius of harnessing it -- through the use of irrigation -- thus the supreme god of water would also be envisioned as wise and crafty.

This is all Speculation, of course, but we do know Enki's popularity did not wane with the deterioration of his home city-state, Eridu:

"Enki was tied very closely to an ecological niche and the economy of the marshes in southermost Iraq. When Mesopotamian civilization moved inexorably north into a different ecological condition, Enk's role in some ways diminished, and Eridu became a sacred city, a pigrimage stop, instead of the political and economic center it had been before. The fertile valleys of northern Iraq, the heartland of the Assyrians, had sufficient rainfall for crops and pasturage. The yield eve today is greater there than in the alluvial plains of the south."

What did not diminish in the movement of Mesopotamian civilization was the reliance on magic. Indeed, magic seems to have become more and more important through the second and first millennia. That meant the role of the esoteric Enki would remain long after his cult city had lost its political importance.

(Kramer & Maier)

Kramer´s and Maier´s Enky the Crafty God is a book I have been chasing for years. Out of stock... buaaaaaah

I would add that Enki is Crafty and Archetypal because water takes up all shapes possible and in Enki all ideas of form are possible...

And His ability to contain and envisage all possible forms was borrowed by YHVH later on...

best wishes,
Lishtar

From the Depths and To the Heights to share in all spheres

saharda
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(7/13/03 4:29 am)
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Re: On Enki (found in the Net)
Enki is the deity I am most devoted to simply because as a physicist who practices magic and who has a strong affinity to water he simply called to me.

gudeasghost
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(8/25/03 5:49 pm)
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Re: On Enki (found in the Net)
Enki is definately cool. The whole saving-humankind-from-the-flood thing was a real swell thing to do. Though, I think I'm more drawn to Enlil. I guess, where, saharda, you've an affinity to water, I'm drawn to air. (I'm a Gemini after all!:D ) But that's just right now... I'm still conducting my preliminary re-reading of the myths and stuff and my ideas may change.

GG

I am like a sheep who has no reliable shepherd; there is no reliable herdsman to lead me on.

trash80
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(1/9/04 5:06 am)
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me too
as noted in another thread enki is the god i was drawn to and to whom i direct my prayers and maintain a shrine to.

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