Kaze
"Are you attempting to play a devil's advocate? Or do you just not see any conflict between the arguments you are putting forth in all your many, many posts, and your stated church activites?" Nu

No I'm not playing devils advocate. My church activities are in the past. As of right now I am only a member. I just tried to put forth the fact that I am no longer a believer. Is this a bit of hypocrocy on my part? I would have to answer yes. There is still the reality of family politics and reality that I must acknowledge and deal with. My wife is unaware of my new found knowledge and I am confident my children will come to their own conclusions sooner or later.Believe it or not my youngest just recieved confirmation this past spring.

2 Timothy 2:22-26
Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resntful. Thosee who oppose him must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repntance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.



2 Timothy 3:7-9

Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth-men of depraved minds, who as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. But they will not get very far beacause, as in the case of those men. their folly will be clear to everyone.


Titus 3:10-11

Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.

1 Corinthians 10:31

SO whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.


1 Corinthians 5:12-13

What business is it of mine to judge those outside of the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."


1 Corinthians 2:14

The man without the Spirit does not accept the things from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned.



Now I just wanted say that Nuhere is a diverse man he came here looking for an arguement, and you know what he got one. Now Yes Jesus did answer the Phariesees questions BUT he didn't get tangled into them he Just gave his answer and left it at that unless they asked another question, now most of the things Nuhere put on here Aren't Questions rather statements, and now I know we want to back up things with Scripture but if he doesn't believe that the bible holds truth what does it mean to him?
Now disscussions and Debetes are good an all but with fellow believers because if I argue and debate with a Non-Christian I often try to use Scripture and it means NOTHING because they don't accept it ya know?
If I been sounded self righteous I honestly wasn't meaning to I was just trying to help out but it didn't come through like that I guess, Yes I do become upset because you guys CONSTENTLY bigure with him even though the bible does say other wise
(Titus 3 10)
and you guys warned him more than that Also in Mattew warning about a Brother doing wrong to you, how you should bring more then one person then after that the elders, and after that the church, and if still then he goes on sinning then have nothing to do with him

And I havn't been trying to get Nuhere's Beliefs because to me they were obvious, that he didn't believe in Christianty nor was willing to change.

And now its time for me to say
"I'll stop rambling"

So says me X ZackX Aim:ZaWerKae