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X Zack X
Private First Class Posts: 49 (10/22/02 8:13 pm) Reply |
OKay I know I shouldn't but I can't resist... How Old Do you think Nuhere Is or acts?Show results ....Okay I'll stop rambling.... |
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X Zack X
Private First Class Posts: 50 (10/22/02 8:16 pm) Reply |
Re: OKay I know I shouldn't but I can't resist...
Reason for this?
1. I've noticing how Diverse Nuhere has been getting as to how he always seems to push an arguement 2. I was bored and it was wrong for me to do it I know...I'm sorry (  )3. God bless and good night (if wanted please delete this ...since its VERY unchristian thing to do ...)
....Okay I'll stop rambling.... |
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NUHERE
Sergeant Major Posts: 413 (10/22/02 8:38 pm) Reply |
OK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "How Old Do you think Nuhere Is or acts?" Posted by Zack Does this mean you are trying to attack me personally because you have failed to successfully debate me? |
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Marys27
 Posts: 1184 (10/23/02 6:59 am) Reply |
Re: OK You know it was wrong, yet you continued to do it. My suggestion, edit the post....
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Kaze9999
 Posts: 918 (10/23/02 3:13 pm) Reply |
Re: OK What's wrong with this exactly? He set up the poll with non-insulting selections. I even picked one. NUHERE, it is the height of hypocrisy for you to claim the high ground against a 'personal' attack, especially a non-one like this, when you consistently employ personal attacks as 'arguments'. Eric |
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NUHERE
Sergeant Major Posts: 415 (10/23/02 5:49 pm) Reply |
ok Kaze : "NUHERE, it is the height of hypocrisy for you to claim the high ground against a 'personal' attack, especially a non-one like this, when you consistently employ personal attacks as 'arguments'." Could you show me where I have personally attacked another poster. On the contrary I think if you go back and read some of the responses to me I have been more than cordial. |
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Kaze9999
Posts: 919 (10/23/02 7:13 pm) Reply |
Re: ok Well lessee, which do you feel is most cordial, the parts where you call believing Christians (individually) stupid, naive, or deranged? But if one of them dares suggest that they personally find your behavior immature! Oh! 'Personal attacks!' I would replay in more detail if I had any reason based on your numerous previous posts to believe that you are capable of entertaining a thought you don't agree with. Eric |
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NUHERE
Sergeant Major Posts: 421 (10/23/02 7:25 pm) Reply |
ok "Well lessee, which do you feel is most cordial, the parts where you call believing Christians (individually) stupid, naive, or deranged?"Kaze I don't think you can find the post which I accused anyone of being stupid, or deranged. I think naive is a fair assessment. When one makes a claim for something one would expect some proof to be offered. When all that is offered is he said ,she said, and what he said is considered fraudulent and one still insists on believing it then I think that is evidence of being naive. "I would replay in more detail if I had any reason based on your numerous previous posts to believe that you are capable of entertaining a thought you don't agree with. " Would you care to expand on this? I really don't have problems with entertaining thoughts I don't agree with. I simply weigh the evidence as it is presented and make a rational judgment. |
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RedClaw 
  Posts: 1567 (10/23/02 10:30 pm) Reply |
Re: ok "I think naive is a fair assessment. When one makes a claim for something one would expect some proof to be offered. When all that is offered is he said ,she said, and what he said is considered fraudulent and one still insists on believing it then I think that is evidence of being naive." I'd like to see you try and become a scientist one day, Nuhere. Because scientists work a lot in theoretical realms, and apparantly you can't accept anything without 100% proof. "I simply weigh the evidence as it is presented and make a rational judgment." Do we do any different? And if you disagree, I want proof from a reliable, secular source that the Faithful Knights of Christ are not making rational judgments. And I mean I want our little group here to be specifically referenced, otherwise your answer is wrong until you agree with me. <p> at: 10/23/02 10:32:21 pm |
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Taemir Arketon
Private Posts: 8 (10/24/02 8:43 am) Reply |
Re: ok Is it really naive? When I went from atheist to Christian I knew exactly what I was signing on for. I believe promises from Jesus Christ and that I have nothing you could call proof in the scientific sense that he can make good on those promises. I also know that I am going to be called "fool", "naive", "idiot" even "dangerous", "evil" and every colorful expletive in the book for believing thus. In other words, I know I am putting faith in an outrageous idea and that I am amazed that anyone believes at all. So I don't think it is naive when you go into it knowing in advance that you must rely on faith. Like Paul said "Faith, Hope and Love." I suppose he could have said "Proof, Materialism, and poo-poo anyone who thinks otherwise," but that would be some pretty clunky prose. 
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X Zack X
Lance Corporal Posts: 51 (10/24/02 12:19 pm) Reply |
Re: ok And I havn't lost a debate with you the only way for one to lose a debate would be if they'd have to change thier views, my views are still the same as they were when I arrived here, and there is something wrong with this whole poll, Its insulting, and VERY unchristian thing to do. Nuhere the reason why I made this is because, you act like your like 12 you just want to bicker, and Don't say you don't because you do, and its simple as that you say things like Thats not True impossible OHH an proof of Jesus EVER existing they found a tomb stone stating Jame son of Joesph and Mary, brother of Jesus Its been dated back like 1,923 years or so, I'll get that paper if I can find it, it might also be on the internet, and its not published by a Chrisitan Paper its a town paper, so you wanted proof of Jesus, theres some, and you must be the most ignorate person i know, people give you the truth and you say, theirs no proof, and then you make up some crazy facts and have little or no proof to support you. Childish I acted by making this poll, childish you act trying to argue with people. The differnce I realize I was Childish and am changing, you don't see you as being Childish. [html]<font color=green>....Okay I'll stop rambling....</font>[/html] |
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RedClaw
Posts: 1569 (10/24/02 1:44 pm) Reply |
Re: ok
Was it this one?
www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/sci...index.html <p> |
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SirNukes
Cow Master Posts: 1969 (10/24/02 2:35 pm) Reply |
Re: OKay I know I shouldn't but I can't resist... Btw, for some reason it's impossible for me to edit polls. Dunno why. I can delete, just not edit, but to delete it I need to delete the whole thread. I can close the thread, but that's about it (just in case you are wondering why no one has removed the poll yet, dispite your request). And while I'm here, I might as well mention something about proof. If you think about it, proof is simply something to convinces someone of the truth of some belief. Since everyone has their own opinions, proof is relative. I have plenty of proof for Christianity, but Nuhere has none. Why? Well, no matter what he's told, no matter how factual, logical, and overwhelmingly in favor of Christianity, he decided that he didn't like Christianity before he came here, and so nothing (that we have available to us, at any rate) can overcome his bias and change his mind. Thus, there is no possible proof we can give him, as he is too set in his atheism. That's not to say that what we have isn't strong evidence (no matter what insults he might sling), just that nuhere's decided that it won't convince him. And one other thing real quick: it wasn't a tombstone, but a box (kinda like a jar for keeping someone's ashes, but bigger and made to hold bones). And it reads "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus." Just a couple of quick corrections, for those who don't read the linked article. <a href="http://www.christiangamer.org"><img src="http://www.christiangamer.org/images/sirnukes.jpg"></a> |
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X Zack X
Lance Corporal Posts: 52 (10/26/02 6:12 pm) Reply |
Re: OKay I know I shouldn't but I can't resist... Yeah Nukes For those who believe, no proof is needed For those who don't believe, no proof is possible I said it before and I say it again. [html]<font color=green>....Okay I'll stop rambling....</font>[/html] |
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NUHERE
Sergeant Major Posts: 426 (11/1/02 9:45 pm) Reply |
resist "If you think about it, proof is simply something to convinces someone of the truth of some belief" Nukes Is this to much to ask? "I have plenty of proof for Christianity, but Nuhere has none." I haven't seen any proof that either wasn't considered fraud, suspect, third party, or independently verified. I agree I have no proof of Christianity. "Thus, there is no possible proof we can give him, as he is too set in his atheism."Nukes If there were proof I think the whole world would know it by now don't you? "And one other thing real quick: it wasn't a tombstone, but a box (kinda like a jar for keeping someone's ashes, but bigger and made to hold bones). And it reads "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus." Just a couple of quick corrections, for those who don't read the linked article." I am aware of the article you mentioned and Iam not impressed. Jesus was a common name back then and even Barabbas' first name was Jesus. Just to give you some slack I can accept the possibility that there may have been a man named Jesus that made a name for himself but a man is all he was. When every fantastic story and miracle told in the N/T(and found nowhere else) (regarding Jesus)can be found in earlier religions preceding Christianity you have two choices either accept all of them as real or accept none. Since I have no reason to believe the other religions I choose to accept none. |
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RedClaw
Posts: 1583 (11/1/02 11:05 pm) Reply |
Re: resist "If there were proof I think the whole world would know it by now don't you?" That being said, there are still religious people. Looks like you're not as right as you think you are even by your own standards. <p> |
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Taemir Arketon 
 Posts: 14 (11/2/02 12:45 pm) Reply |
Re: resist I'm not going to bust his chops because he is using faith whether he realizes it or not. Most Christians believe using the classical view of reason that breaks it down into: simple aprehension, judgement or discovery, and the provable. Nuhere is basically taking the modern view that only the third, provable, counts. We can distill it to the idea that only things provable by science are valid. Problem is, "only things provable by science are valid" is not provable by science. (Notice the smartest scientists acknowledge this.) So to hold up the third as the only way to reason, you have to believe it to be so. It is an act of will, not intellect. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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