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Stockton Wheels SWS-TQ and Disc Brakes
I'm doing the A-body disc brake swap on a 68 RR. I have all the pieces and just got my new Stockton SWS-TQ 15" wheels on Friday. I was doing a trial fit of everything today and all was well except for the lack of clearance for the center cap to go on. Has anyone else run into this problem? What was your solution? I'm calling stockton wheels tomorrow, but I wanted some input from the group.
I'm not familar w/ your wheels but I am w/ the swap. Are you saying you used an entire A-body setup or just the spindles? When I swapped mine I used the spindles from a '73-'76 a body or '73-74' e body. The brackets came from a '76-'78 b body as did the big 11.75 rotors. I haven't had your problem though.
My best guess is that if you used rotors like mine, they have a very large centering hub. Hence your problem. W/O know more about your wheels all I can do is guess. I don't remember late b bodies having a different whell but I could be wrong. Maybe other board members w/ those cars can chime in.
Re: Stockton Wheels SWS-TQ and Disc Brakes
Here's a couple pictures to clarify the problem. There is physically no space for the center cap tangs to fit in between the disc hub and wheel hub.
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That's tight. Are those a body rotors or the late b ones? They have the big center hub like I remember mine but looked to be the 2 piece rotors from another app.
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Those are the late B-Body 11 3/4" rotors. However, I also have a set of the A-Body 10.87" rotors and they have the same problem.
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Hmm. Next thing I would do is ask Stockton if they call for a different wheel on the late b's. Those rotors are much beefier in that area than the early stuff. That of course limits failures in that point.
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ok went out and looked at my car. It has the 11.75 rotors. Wheels are from another car I bought. Center caps say Cobra and they are aluminum wheels. Has at least 1/4 inch all the way around the center hub. Not sure why the Stockton has it so tight.
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I think it has to do with the asthetic design of the rim. I have another set of 15" rims which I trial fit the rotors in and they don't have this problem.
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They're very nice rims, and that's why I'd like to do what I can to solve this problem. Here's a pic of the whole wheel.
The solution I'm leaning to right now is to modify the spindle dust cap to "hold" the center cap on the wheel.
I got in touch with Stockton wheels and they claim that they've never heard of this problem before. Their only solutions were to either use the (2) 5/16" spacers they provided or machine the rotor snout. I really like these wheels and I don't like spacers so I did some calling around to machine shops. Had a couple no go's, but was referred to and called one guy who said, "If you know what you want, then we can machine it". Took it down there and left him the rotors, and on his suggestion left 1 wheel and center cap. I like that he's going to machine it to fit and not just to some arbitrary dimension. Should have them back before weekend.
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I think you did the only thing you could have done.
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Re: Stockton Wheels SWS-TQ and Disc Brakes
I would like to do a disk brake upgrade on a 69 RR, what would be a good donor car to get them from? If I take the spindle from an a body, does all the other a body parts fit? What about a power brake booster? Sorry for the dumb questions but if I go to the wrecking yard I need to know what to look for that will fit.
Thanks in advance.
John
Re: Stockton Wheels SWS-TQ and Disc Brakes
Disc Brake equiped 73-76 A-Body (Duster, Dart, Demon, etc.) or 73-74 E-Body (Challenger or Cuda). These cars all used the same steering knuckle. That knuckle is the same size between ball joints as the 62-72 B-Body's so it'll bolt right in without changing steering geometry. You should get everything between the ball joints. This includes the knuckles, calipers (for cores at parts store), dust shields, caliper adapters, and nuts & bolts for lower ball joint. The easiest way to do this is to cut the hose for the caliper, disconnect the knuckle from the upper ball joint and disconnect the lower ball joint from the lower control arm and tie rod. Everything that falls in your lap you keep to refurbish, turn in as cores, or just as a guide to find replacement parts. Get new rotors, hoses, wheel bearings, calipers, and seals from your parts house.
If you want bigger brakes, then also go find a 76-78 B-Body (Cordoba, Diplomat) and take the caliper adapters. These will allow you to run the 11.75" rotors instead of the 10.87" ones that came on the A-Bodys.
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