Wanna-be's

I'm not a vampire, but most of the ppl that act like they are and try to prove it...sometimes makes me sick and definitly annoys me. However, the rare times a few come around...they may not be vampires...but they are really cool and funny as hell. But why try and be something when you're not? Why not just be yourself? And if you don't know who or what that is...then why not search?

Rae ~Wolf~

One never knows if dreams will come true until they already have.

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Reznor Daemon Soul Posts: 371 (6/12/02 10:03 pm) Reply	Wanna-be's I am just curious about how vampires feel about wanna-be vampires? You know, that small group of people, who are attempting to be different and rebelous, but you can sense that they aren't... they are just trying to "be" weird. I haven't seen it as much since I left the California bay area, and high school... but I am sure some of it is still around. Reznor "Comfort being wrapped inside the blanket of darkness..." (Property of Reznor)
raewolf thedreamer Mystic Wolf Posts: 337 (6/24/02 8:41 pm) Reply	Re: Wanna-be's I'm not a vampire, but most of the ppl that act like they are and try to prove it...sometimes makes me sick and definitly annoys me. However, the rare times a few come around...they may not be vampires...but they are really cool and funny as hell. But why try and be something when you're not? Why not just be yourself? And if you don't know who or what that is...then why not search? Rae ~Wolf~ One never knows if dreams will come true until they already have.
Reznor Daemon Soul Posts: 408 (6/29/02 4:40 am) Reply	Re: Wanna-be's They aren't comfortable being who they are that is why... Plus they want to feel like they are part of a group, part of something. Do you not think that vampires and otherkin don't feel that? It is in our nature to be part of the group... but in some people it becomes a lot worse, they want to be part of the herd. (I am beginning to think this thread belongs in another forum since we are no longer discussing vampires. Oh, here we go...) I think that a lot of people don't feel like they belong, and they can somehow associate with vampires, and for a long time (and my still) it was a fad to be like a vampire which I am assuming was rather insulting to those who really were. Reznor
amatite New Toy Posts: 19 (7/2/02 1:27 pm) Reply	vamp imput Well, I see that this is kinda asking for my imput. I am one. Not, a wanna be. I find them to be annoying yes, but only when they try to prove something that they know isn't right or true. Vampire....wanna-be's can be harmless, if that is all infact the are. When they start taking it to a new level...it becomes dangerous to themselves and to others...and even to us vamps. just my little statement. Hopefully I didn't scare anyone...with my blunt statements...but I'm having to be blunt for a little while... Pacis, Amatite
NightAngel of Darkness Daemonic Lover Posts: 1260 (7/2/02 1:34 pm) Reply	Re: vamp imput That is far from blunt Amatite; do not apologize for speaking your mind. If you did not want to speak your mind you would have not posted. ;) As for your words, you are right. Then again any poser could be dangerous. Whether that be vamp, draco, or any other kin type. They all end up a danger to the truth... "The nights silence brakes to calls of wild, Kindred prayers of deadly kisses, Caressing silken flesh of a mortals soul� Power calling forth from ecstatic love� Silence falling from the sickened dove� The Angel stands in silence above, Blackened wings clawed in blood� Silence, death, undying love�" (Property of NightAngel of Darkness) Linger within the shadows...
Reznor Daemon Soul Posts: 422 (7/2/02 1:43 pm) Reply	Re: vamp imput Ametite, I would say that you statements are pretty well on the mark, if you believe them to be blunt or not. The thing is, I think the problem comes when the wanna-be's begin doing things that hurt the image of other kin. I suppose if they want to pretend to be a vampire, daemon, or draco, etc then that is their choice, but like some kids who committed a crime, and the media went and began called it, "The Vampire Killers" or the "Vampire Killings" or some nonsense. That hurts the image of vampires. The other problem is, people don't believe in us all ready (well, us as other kin, I am not a vampire)... in fact we would be thought of as crazy for thinking such a thing, and when the wanna-be's act out and get stupid... that make things that much more difficult. Not that we want to be exposed anyway... then the poser problem might get worse. And as Night said, "They all end up a danger to the truth... " Reznor "My worst fear of all, is that I will not be worthy of my suffering."
amatite New Toy Posts: 20 (7/3/02 9:44 am) Reply	danger Yes, i would have to say that they are all a danger. but the thing is that some of them really.....just want to have something that sets them apart. They hurt themselves more then anyone else in this fact. Pehaprs that is just my years of learning how to revert what my councelor was saying to me into me being able to be a counselor...if only I would go into that study instead of becoming a teacher....grrr wanna-bes, will be around for a long time, and they have been around for a very long time as well. I think that it is something that we will never be able to change, but i think that if we embracei mean talk to them....get them to see their wrong them as people....they might understand a little better. I've sat a few down and informed them...and they understood. It was a breath of fresh air....because i don't like others thinking that they can hurt me or anyone else as much as they thought. pacis, Amatite In a world such as this, how do we know that we are loved and love unless we show it? So, show and speak of your love, if you can. You never know when death will come for you. ~Amatite Amoure Silvermoon~ Owner ofAngel Amatite's Embrace Poetry is food for my immortal soul.~Amatite Silvermoon~
Reznor Daemon Soul Posts: 425 (7/3/02 11:49 am) Reply	Re: danger That is a really great way of looking at it. The problem is, whom am I to tell them what they are not? We can say if we think they are, or are not, but could they still be? I know that some wanna-be's are incredibly obvious, and those I might say something to them about it, but otherwise, I am not the authority to say who is part of the club, and who is not. I will say that I definitely have my opinion of those who are not... 1.) because they don't feel like kin, and 2.) they act exactly how wanna-be/posers act. It is hard for a lot of people to step away from the herd. And I think the WB's (I am tired of writing that) are just trying to find which herd they belong too... Reznor Edited by: Reznor at: 7/16/02 1:17:45 pm
SilantWanderer New Toy Posts: 3 (7/12/02 6:24 pm) Reply	Re: danger I find that wanna be's are quite annoying. I am a vampire, recently awakened, and I don't like them. What is worst then a person pretending to be a real vampire is someone who tries to be a stereotype like being immortal and ultimately powerful and all the other bull crap. I mean, why can't they just be themselves, why do they have to act different just to get attention. I feel like telling them, "If you want attention, start slitting your wrists and wear an upside down cross or pentagram (sorry for bad spelling on that). Yea, that would get them a whole lot of attention. heh heh. Sorry, very ill sense of humor, but I like it. Either that or have them blow the school up. Yep, more attention. Oh well. Evil posers. May they all find ill health in the dark path they have chose to tread, but are unable to bear the hot coals which they tread upon. ::Makes a toast with red wine:: Ever Silent, Ever Wandering, SilantWanderer
NightAngel of Darkness Daemonic Lover Posts: 1335 (7/15/02 11:44 am) Reply	Re: danger Reznor said "they act exactly how wanna-be/posers act." How do the posers act in your eyes? SilantWanderer said ""If you want attention, start slitting your wrists and wear an upside down cross or pentagram." Why don't you? If they bother you than why not? Why not tell them how stupid they look or sound or appear? No harm in the truth... to you anyway... :evil " The beauty that stands before you is death, Her kiss is poison, Her gift is pain, I am that beauty... that pain, that thing that will poison you and leave you dying screaming invain..." (Property of NightAngel of Darkness) Linger within the shadows... Edited by: NightAngel of Darkness at: 7/15/02 11:48:39 am
Reznor Daemon Soul Posts: 497 (7/15/02 11:59 am) Reply	Re: danger As for them acting a certain way... the best way I can describe that is with an episode of Buffy that I saw. There were a bunch of people looking gothic and "pretending" to be vampires and worship vampires when they knew nothing of them. Nothing real about them anyway... and that is why I am talking about. The people who dress gothic and pretend to be kin, yet they are really only trying to be part of something because they do not know of their place in the world. Night, don't you if SilentWanderer is that annoyed with them, that slitting his wrist and wearing an upside down cross would be a little excessive? Although I will say that I thought SilentWanderer's comment was just a hair harsh. (in case anyone didn't hear the sarcasm in that comment, I am being sarcastic.) I think that is incredibly excessive and makes for an incredibly poor argument, and it would be better if SilentWanderer could make a more rational, logical argument about the topic instead of throwing out "shock-phrases" like that. Reznor "The only thing I fear, is not being worthy of my sufferings." (Viktor Frankl) Edited by: Reznor at: 7/16/02 1:18:58 pm
NightAngel of Darkness Daemonic Lover Posts: 1336 (7/15/02 12:06 pm) Reply	Re: danger Never said anything about saying such comments. I simply suggested that since he/she had such a problem with them then why not speak his/her voice... Those posers are speaking their voice.... " The beauty that stands before you is death, Her kiss is poison, Her gift is pain, I am that beauty... that pain, that thing that will poison you and leave you dying screaming invain..." (Property of NightAngel of Darkness) Linger within the shadows...
SilantWanderer New Toy Posts: 5 (7/15/02 12:30 pm) Reply	Re: Wanna-be's Reznor, I have been with ignorant people for a while so it has rubbed off on me. Please, it was ill humor and not rational. Just humor, my friends. geeze. Ever Silent, Ever Wandering SilantWanderer
Reznor Daemon Soul Posts: 504 (7/16/02 7:13 am) Reply	Re: Wanna-be's NightAngel: I merely misunderstood that section, so I apologize. SilantWanderer: I understand that it was just humor, but sometimes humorous comments like that have real meaning to them, and I was just making sure the meaning was understood. I would say that a number of the posers actually have done things like that to try and fit in... in my highschool, suicide was kind of an in-thing. Maybe not necessarily committing suicide, but attempting it. It was sort of cool to be suicidal and so, that was why I was commenting on it. Reznor "The only thing I fear, is not being worthy of my sufferings." (Viktor Frankl)
Drackusis Blackthorne New Toy Posts: 2 (7/16/02 1:03 pm) Reply	Re: Wanna-be's Oh surely. It is EASY to say "just be yourself" when you are in a position of power {being Otherkin}. The issue here is that many people are not SATISFIED with themselves. Such is the nature of The Beast: Greed and Jealousy. You can say what you will, but they shall never be satisfied with themselves. They may as well throw themselves into the Klippoth. Laughs Heartily As for suicide, I am extremly supportive of it. I believe that more people should commit suicide for two reasons: 1. It will reduce the World's population. 2. I enjoy seeing people hurting and dying. As far as Satanic Pentragrams and Inverse Crosses are concerned? Well... Points to his fading Blood Red Baphomet to the Left "'What has a Daemon to fear of Hell?' asked Drackusis of the Priest..." Edited by: Drackusis Blackthorne at: 7/16/02 1:04:30 pm
NightAngel of Darkness Daemonic Lover Posts: 1345 (7/16/02 1:15 pm) Reply	Re: Wanna-be's You have a morbid and yet good point Drackusis... :evil (about the suicide) As for your point in the reality that 'they will never be happy with themselves' I think you are right again!... The words 'I'm not normal' have fallen from a lot of past friend's lips. I would have to say that they are posers none-the-less despite how much I do not care for puting labels on people. What really gets ill feeling is when the so called 'posers' start creating some story in their head that makes them belive that 'they' are not human and are actually vampires (or any other kin.) The worst part about this is the fact that they do not follow what would be considered normal traits (for example) of the vampire but the fictional lala land traits.... Such as immortality (in the sense that they could die and reawaken the next day) traits such as that. Thank you for your impute, NightAngel
Drackusis Blackthorne New Toy Posts: 5 (7/16/02 1:44 pm) Reply	Re: Wanna-be's Well, for all that I know, such beings could exist. I may be an arrogant bastard, but I do not claim to be all-knowing. "'What has a Daemon to fear of Hell?' asked Drackusis of the Priest..."
Reznor Daemon Soul Posts: 525 (7/20/02 9:36 am) Reply	Re: Wanna-be's Drackusis I would say that the problem with "just be yourself" is that many people have no idea who they are. They believe that they are suppose to be something so much more in life, yet they are nothing. That sense of nothingness really bothers people. I for one don't care... I know that I am a small blip in the world, and I am not afraid to admit it. The world/universe is far broader than I... and I am not going to be presumptious enough to say that I am not. This also does not mean that I do not think of myself as being powerful because everyone else (or at least a lot of them) around me is just a blip also, and I believe that I am stronger and pocess more strength that they do. Yes that is a little arogant but, what is wrong with that? :; As for the posers... I have known a number of them that have done exactly what NightAngel mentioned. Creating a story around themselves and make-believing that they are. Now, I will give them points on creativity and maybe they should become a novelist, but that doesn't make them kin. I will agree with Drackusis though and say that I do not know everything, nor will I ever say that I do (mostly because I don't want that quote being thrown back in my face at a later date... ) but the feeling I get from them is that they are not kin, but they are merely struggling with their place in the world. Reznor

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