dwstingy
Unregistered User
(3/30/04 3:49 pm) Reply
You call that HOG HUNTING. Hahahaha
Ok I heard that some people are charging big bucks to take people hunting on land that is surrounded by game fences. Thats not real hunting I guess you can screw a few city boys out of some money and tell them its hog hunting but its not. I dont know I guess thats just the way I look at it. If anybody else see's it that way let me know I am just wondering, and if anybody has paid to go on one let me know how much you spent. Sure on a hunt with no game fences you may not get that really big boar every time but isnt that part of it. Isnt that what keeps you hunting. Where I am from if you got dogs that work bring em. If you want to hunt come on lets go. Well anyways I aint trying to make enemies thats just something I wanted to discuss please let me know what ya'll think.
Well a lot of people share your opinion, and just as many won't. I for one have hunted enclosures a time or two and several times the boar I wanted got away. I've been charged by raging boar far more often while in an enclosure, that's for sure.
I enjoy spot and stalk hunting the most, but would never put anyone down for hunting in an enclosure. Though I did before I done it myself, however. I support the owners of enclosures and know that in many areas it is required for cmmercial hunting operations to have wild hog in an enclosure. Hunt them the way that you enjoy, but I'd never discourage someone from trying it. Try it first!
Happy Huntin'
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Cody Weiser
Unregistered User
(3/31/04 12:04 pm) Reply
I agree with Gary
I agree with Gary on this one. It all depends on the size of the enclosure that you are hunting and the quality of the wild boar inside. Enclosures can encompass huge amounts of land and support wild boar that have never seen a human before. Enclosures are also the only way to ensure and manage quality herds of European wild boar without domestic or feral breeding interference. If the boar are truly wild and not tame then the hunt will be just as exciting and true as outside the fence, not to mention the animal will be better quality. I once hunted a non-fenced ranch where 5 boars walked into camp and we caught one by hand without any dogs. This thing had to be someone's pet and it truly spoiled the hunt when it was obvious that hand fed animals were the game that was going to be hunted. On the same token I've seen fenced game ranches that support boars that are the meanest and most dangerous animals out there.
Cody Weiser
Field Editor
Boar Hunter Magazine
Hog Ripper
Unregistered User
(4/1/04 2:08 pm) Reply
Not the same
To me there is a lot less of a challenge when you are hunting guarenteed hunts. A lot of the fun to me is the joy of MY dogs hunting and finding a hog and I don't care what anybody says the challenge of finding a hog in the non-fenced woods is far greater than in a pen that you know for a fact there are hogs.
however you want to hunt
I agree with ripper it just seems less challenging in an enclosed area. But Gary I agree with you also hunt them however you enjoy to hunt them. Everybody is entitled to an opinion. I would rather not hunt them in an enclosed area thats just me. I would like to hear other peoples opinions on this.
Hunting preserves
it's an experience. There isnt nothing like gettng up close and personal with a pissed off hog and takinghim down.
Like Gary said....Dont knock it ill you tried it. I guess you only fish in lakes and not ponds...correct??
plotthound
Unregistered User
(4/7/04 6:42 pm) Reply
hunt em any way you can
I have hunted hogs both ways, and both have provided lasting memories and friendships. I host alot of disabled hunters who would not have the chance to harvest a hog if it werent for game preserves. Yes, it does put the odds in your favor by hunting behind a fence, but it also makes it possible for people who cant chase them hogs through the mtns of the southeast US. I dont know where most of you hunt your hogs but I have seen Texas mentioned alot. I am from the smokey mtn part of tenn. Not to far from where the original wild boar were released (or escaped depending on who you talk to) just across the border in NC. We run our dogs up and down them mtns and I have come home more times exhausted than I have come home with a hog. As for me, Hunt them any way you can, they are a blast
ocoeerambler
Unregistered User
(4/7/04 8:32 pm) Reply
plenty of exercise
I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL PLOTTHOUND . IVE CAME HOME A MANY ATIME FROM THE MTNS WONDERING WHY IN THE WORLD DO I KEEP ON DOING IT ICOULD ALMOST SWEAR MY FEET WERE SOARER THAN THE DOGS. BUT ITS FOR THE JOY OF THE HUNT. THE WAY I SEE IT A MAN SHOULD HUNT THEM HOWEVER IT IS MOST COMFORTABLE AND ENJOYABLE FOR HIM.
dwstingy
Unregistered User
(4/8/04 10:33 am) Reply
hogs
I am with you on the point of view for a disabled person to be able to hunt. It is awesome for disabled hunters. But for me its not fair its almost like there is no competition. You are out ther running a hog and boom there is a fence blocking his way, and you are out there hunting and you know there are hogs there. To me part of it is wondering if you are going to find a hog on the hunt. I like seeing just how good my strike dog is. And I have gotten up close and personal with my hogs out in the woods with out a fence around me. We all need the exercise anyways.
hogs
i am from texas and there is too much high fence shooting. i do not call it hunting.they charge huge bucks because they do all the work for you. the main thing to me is the outdoor experience
Maybe to you...
But the folks I deal with do not share your sentiments as they can not access the same lands you can...Try telling a hunter with no legs or no use of any extremities that the hog they just took is not hunting...you look them right in the eyes, person to person and tell them that.. I know TNExtreme has a great operation as well as Wilderness Hunting Lodge here in Tennessee..Come with me sometime when a terminally ill child or adult takes his very first and last hog and tell them what they did is not hunting. You can't do it.
Thanks,
God bless,
Alway's a Servant.
Norm Sauceman
President/Founder
DHNA
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you jumped to a conclusion.i am permanently disabled.i know what it feels like to see an animal get away.that part is life and why it is called hunting.to hunt somewhere in ana enclosure is not hunting.it is called shooting/all the preparation is done by the fence owners and not the hunter.that is not hunting
Re: maybe to you
Nope, not true at all..I have taken folks out to the 1100 acre enclosure and in 3 days we never got a shot...do you fish in a pond, lake or sea?? Would a pond be an enclosure?
Thanks,
God bless,
Alway's a Servant.
Norm Sauceman
President/Founder
DHNA
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Re: maybe to you
...and no, I jumped to no conclusion... I made my answer on the facts you presented. I have hunting buds who are able to get out to hunt in marshes and run dogs...I can not get out there...a large enclosure like Wilderness is a place that allows me to go..and no...the guides will only go if you ask them to...the whole hunt is what you make it...
Thanks,
God bless,
Alway's a Servant.
Norm Sauceman
President/Founder
DHNA
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I get to see folks on a weekly basis have the thrill of their life when they get charged by their first wild hog encounter.
For you to say that those folks are "not hunters" or somehow "lower" than you because they choose to chase hogs in a enclosure is a farce and terribly eroneous. I have hunted hogs since I have been walking, and by far, hands down, the enclosure hunts make for a more thrilling, "super charged " experience. The hogs are meaner, wilder, and pissed beyond measure.
Dont belittle and mock and degrade people who want to hunt his way...You are only making PETA proud by condemning fellow hunters.
dep214
where did you come up with this lower than you crap?that is really reaching.anything that interferes with the natural movement of animals is not hunting.they only way it could be hunting is if the animals can get out of the enclosure.i love to hunt hogs.being disabled makes it extremely hard for me. i still refus to hunt a penned up animal.anything in a fence is prepared and set up by the fence owners. all the "hunter" does is go there to shoot
disabled, but still looks down on the type of adventures I take folks on who are ...hmm..how should I say...severely disabled? Wheelchair bound, quads..etc...
You should never look down on someone who shares some of your passion "hunting'...I have folks who have swore they would never hunt an "Enclosure"..but when they come to the 1100 acre mountains we have here...they change thier minds.
Please don't get me wrong, I admire your zest for life and being "able" to get out on your own or with help of others...but do not belittle others who can not. It is the same arguement we get with Eastern -v.s.- Western deer hunters...Western Hunters say Eastern Hunters are lazy and can't hunt because they do not have open ranges to stalk and only sit in trees and wait..
They do not share in the different areas we wnjoy and hunt, they are just narrow-minded and unshakable..
Putting down one persons way of having access to the outdoors is narrow-minded allbeight an opinion, I think it is another way to divide folks when we should be enjoying each others experiences.
Thanks,
God bless,
Alway's a Servant.
Norm Sauceman
President/Founder
DHNA
http://www.DHNA.org
maybe to you
how in the world can you compare fish in water to a animal in a pen.a fish has to be in water.it can not live out of water. a hog can live outside a fence or pen.i deer hunted last year and did not get a deer.it is not fenced.people are confusing the shooting of an animal with hunting.i am not a peta person and never will be.before i became disabled i hunted all over the sate of texas.now i am very restricted.i have to have help when i hunt.i have to have help getting to and from the hunting areas.disbaled people know that it is not hunting. the experience is what excites them
Re: maybe to you
A pond is empty until you stock it...it has limited movement for the "game" and is restrictive for the "game".
I am not going to sit here and argue with you as I take folks all the time here and they have the time of their lives...but to quote what you just said...
"the experience is what excites them"
Have a great day.
Thanks,
God bless,
Alway's a Servant.
Norm Sauceman
President/Founder
DHNA
http://www.DHNA.org
maybe to you
i am sorry but i have to laugh at you comparison.fish have to have the live.i have never seen a fish walking around on dry land.hog can and do live anywhere.their life does not mean they have to be in a pen like a fish has to be in water.just ask yourself,"can the hog come and go from the fenced area?"
BUT ITS FOR THE JOY OF THE HUNT. THE WAY I SEE IT A MAN SHOULD HUNT THEM HOWEVER IT IS MOST COMFORTABLE AND ENJOYABLE FOR HIM.
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