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Vicki I wasn't going to say anything until someone else said it about fast forwarding .. OH MY GOD... I could care less about anyone else on that one but Max and Liz.. I get scard I will break the tape or ware it out on those spots!! but I can't help myself
Maria has been revamping the board today. So we have been getting really funky things happening. I think it is all better now. Let us know if you have any other problems.
Vicki
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Re: The End of the World
Notice the picture at the top of the boards of Jason in the burgandy shirt? That was the night they filmed the bench scene with Tess form this episode! Edgar took it while they weren't filming.
Vicki
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Re: The End of the World
OK! One more about that night. See the pictures on the VOTE FOR US banner. The picture of Emilie was form that night too. It was also taken at the park bench scene. The picture of Majandra was taken the same night. It was in between when they were filming the Fortune Teller scene. She was signing autograsphs. The picture of Brendan was another Park scen from I think Ask Not, when Max Isabel and Michael are talking on the bleechers at the park. The rest are from the party.
Maria now that I am looking at the pictures correct me if I am wrong. That picture of Jason maybe from the first episode with Tess on the bench. YIKES!
Vicki
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The pics look good.. really good to look at Jason as I type the replys!! Really good to look at Jason at anytime!!!
The colors of the boards look good now.. I CAN SEE.. LET THERE BE LIGHT!!
The boards look really good. I like the black back ground makes everything seem so bright!
TOMORROW IS THE DAY!!! I have noticed there aren't really many spoilers about the Harvest or at least not ones about Max and Liz.. maybe they are trying to keep us spoiled people guessing!!! naughty people...
Well everyone have a nice day.. we have the Air Show here today so its LOUD... Hey L.V. crew we have the Thunderbirds here... Don't know if you know this but their home is Nellis AFB... so we have a piece of LV here today!!! BE GOOD everyone...
IMM Smile and makes someone whos grumpy... even more grumpier!!!
Tres Dias Translation of Max's song
Just found this at Crashdown.. WOW do they know how to pick the songs...
Tres Dias-Translation of Song Max Sang
November 17, 2000 Posted by Mandy
Thanks to Xio for sending this in
Well here's Max's song...This was posted by Gingerela in FF. I copied it
from the Spanish thread and since I speak spanish and I can tell you the
traduction is pretty acurate.
Mariachis:
[I've been] three days without seeing you, woman
[I've been] three days crying over your love,
[I've been] three days watching the sun rise
Max's solo:
Only three days since I've loved you [since I've fallen in love with you]
And in your eyes I was lost
And it's been three days that I haven't heard from you
Where? Where are you?
Who are you cheating on me with?
Where? Where are you? What are you doing?
Three days and I don't know what it is to eat
Only drinking has been able to consle me
Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, your love is going to kill me
Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, what am I going to do if you deny me your love, my
[*dear]?
*The actual word used here was 'alma' which in spanish, means 'soul'. In
this case, 'alma mia' (my soul) would represent something much deeper and
stronger than the typical expression, 'my dear'. It is a very amorous word.
signed.....IMM
You know... Mean People Suck!!
Max the Saint, just walking around with a condom in his back pocket.
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(12/14/00 7:26 pm) Reply
Re: The End of the World
I found this on the fan forum board - apparently someone won a script and these are the scenes that were cut. I think we would have understood more if we had seen the scene in the granilith chamber. Intersting about Max's shirt, too - I knew he wore that green T shirt a lot, but I hadn't really put together why. Also, interesting that the songs were diffent in the script - I always had a feeling that the part where Max mentions "I Shall Believe" in the congresswoman's office was a VO. It just sounds like it.
THE SCENES WE DIDN'T SEE
This scene takes place right after the mariachi serenade - in the Granilith Room:
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Max, Micheal, Isabel and Tess bathed in the otherworldly light. They don't know what it is or why it's there. These days they are just drawn there.
TESS: Maybe we should pool our energy.
MAX: Pool our energy?
TESS: If we join hands and concentrate maybe we can make some kind of connection that we can't make on our own.
MAX: Is this something Nasedo told you?
TESS: No. It's an original idea. Or isn't that allowed?
Max says nothing but gives this no credence. Tess won't let it go.
TESS (cont'd): Can we at least try it?
Max is silent. Tess looks to the others.
ISABEL: I'll try it.
TESS: Michael?
MICHAEL: If it pisses Max off, what the hell.
Tess, Isabel and Micheal join hands.
MAX: I really don't -
ISABEL: Max
Max takes Isabel's hand and then reluctangtly Tess's, completing the circle. They all focus. Max is so uncomfortable holding Tess's hand - being in this proximity to her - after a few seconds Max breaks off. Tess looks at him, stung.
TESS: What are you doing?
MAX: It didn't work.
TESS: You didn't give it a chance.
MAX: I've got too much on my mind to play ring around the rosy, alright?
TESS: Holding hands is childish, but serenading Liz on her rooftop is crucial to our survival.
Max looks at her, how does she know about that?
TESS (con't): It's a small town, Max. Sing in spanish, it gets around.
MAX: My relationship with Liz is none of your business.
TESS: It's not that you think joining hands is a bad idea, you just can't stand to touch me.
Max is busted. She's nailed him.
TESS (cont'd): I am so out of here. Grow up Max.
[End of this scene.]
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Scene where Liz and FMax are watching from the Congresswoman's office as PMax and Tess are sitting outside the Crashdown:
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Through binoculars we see -
Tess sits at an outside table in a sexy lowcut top, sipping an iced tea. (This entire scene is intercut)
We are watching from: Interior of Whitakers office - night
Future Max watches through binoculars and Liz stands next to him.
FMAX: Good, you told her to wear that top.
LIZ: (Taking the bonulars): Yes, so you like that top...
FMAX: It accentuates certain -
Liz's binoculars move down to Tess' breasts momentarily.
LIZ: Yeah, I know what it accentuates.
She hands the binoculars back to FMax.
FMAX: We've got to play whatever cards we have. Here he comes.
Liz takes the binoculars and looks through...
LIZ (coaching Tess): Okay. Don't look at him. Let him come to you.
Max joins Tess at the table.
MAX: Hey Tess.
TESS: Oh, Max. Hi.
MAX: Well, see ya.
TESS: See ya.
LIZ: Let him go. Let him walk away.
Max starts to walk away. Tess pulls up a book and starts reading. Max hesitates.
MAX: 'The Grapes of Wrath'? Is that for class?
TESS: No, I just love Steinbeck.
MAX: You love John Steinbeck?
TESS: You don't have to look so surprised. I do read, you know.
MAX: It's not that, it's just one of my favorite books.
TESS: Really?
Tess goes back to reading.
MAX: Ever read, "Of Mice and Men?"
TESS: Not yet.
MAX: It's even better in some ways...
Max sits and keeps talking about the book.
In the office, FMax grabs the binoculars.
FMAX: He sat down! You got him to sit down with her.
LIZ Rah-rah.
Future Max looks through the binoculars at himself.
FMAX: Oh my God, look at my hair. What was I thinking with those bangs?
LIZ: I like the bangs.
FMAX: God, that shirt. I walked around in that same shirt for a year and a half.
LIZ: That's the shirt you wore the day you healed me.
FMAX: I know.
Something happens at this moment - Liz begins to realize this is Max. She begins to see him as Max. And the reverse is also true.
AT THE CRASHDOWN:
Tess and Max talk. They laugh about something.
TESS: Oh, my God. You are so good at that.
MAX: No.
TESS: Come on. Do Micheal now.
MAX: You won't tell him, right.
TESS: No. Please.
Max becomes Micheal - he starts by taking his sideburns and pushes them out - and does an incredible imitation of him.
MAX (as Micheal): I'm a rebel, Maxwell. And I have a plan. I'm going to take the Granilith and I'm going to eat it one bite at a time with Tabasco sauce. Then I'm going to be silent and moody until something happens. And you're just going to have to deal, because it's how it's gotta be, Maxwell.
Tess cracks up, loving this. Max smiles - he is actually enjoying himself.
IN WHITAKER'S OFFICE:
Liz and FMax. Liz takes the binoculars from her eyes, notices FMax looking at her, enraptured.
LIZ: What?
FMAX: Nothing. It's just seeing you at seventeen again is making it all come flooding back to me. How my stomach used to rumble every time I saw you.
LIZ: So, did we...? Get...married?
FMAX: Liz, I told you I can't --
LIZ: Talk about it. I know. Sorry.
FMax looks at her. She deserves to know this for all she's doing.
FMAX: We eloped. We were 19.
Liz listens, amazed, a strange combination of dying to know and not wanting to know, but the dying to know part takes over:
LIZ: Nineteen? That's so...young, too young.
FMAX: That's what I thought. But you said that Romeo and Juliet were even younger than us. We drove to Vegas and got married at the Elvis chapel. (as Elvis Congratulations, kids.
LIZ: So we didn't have a real wedding.
FMAX: We had a great wedding. We called Maria, Micheal, Isabel and Alex and had them meet us half way. We spent the whole night singing and dancing in some dive outside Phoenix. At the end of the night, "Harvest Moon" came on the radio.
LIZ: I love that song.
FMAX: I know. Everyone else was exhausted. But not us. We danced. Just the two of us. Ever since then it's been our song.
Liz takes a moment then:
LIZ: If this works, I'll never have that day.
FMAX: No, you won't.
They take this in. This has become intimate and oddly romantic between the two of them.
LIZ: And what happens to you if we succeed? I mean, you. The future version of you.
FMAX: If we succeed in changing history a different version of the future will take place. All the events that lead to who I am 14 years from now will be different. The man I am now will...cease to exist.
Liz just looks at him.
AT THE CRASHDOWN:
Tess and Max continue their talk. The mood is still positive.
MAX: Listen, I realize none of this is your fault. You just sought me out because it was your destiny.
TESS: I can only imagine if you thought you found the love of your life then someone tells you you're supposed to be with someone else...
MAX: Exactly.
TESS: If things change, they change and if they don't, it's okay, Max.
MAX (sympathetically): I don't think things will change.
TESS: I know. But it takes two and if Liz isn't interested...
Mistake. Big mistake. The hairs on Max's neck go up.
MAX: What do you mean if Liz isn't interested?
TESS: I didn't mean to...
MAX: You were talking to Liz about this?
TESS: She talked to me.
MAX: About what?
TESS: She knows we should be together and she thought it would be good if we talked, that's all.
MAX: Wait, so you planned this? The two of you?
TESS: Not exactly...
But at that moment Max looks up and sees movement in Whitaker's office across the street. Max heads towards them.
WHITAKER'S OFFICE:
Liz and FMax dive to the floor.
FMAX: Damn.
Liz looks through the window. Max is on the street coming toward them, he breaks into a run.
LIZ (to FMax): Get out of here!
FMax crawls on the floor toward the back door. Max gets to the front door. Opens it. FMas dives under a desk as Max enters.
LIZ (cont'd): Max.
[The rest of the scene is as we saw it.]
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Here is the complete line spoken by FMax to Liz about the cementing - FMax and Liz are discussing what happened the night of the Gomez concert:
LIZ: I have no intention of making love to you or anyone at this particular stage of my life.
FMAX: I beg to differ. Trust me, I was there.
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Scene between Liz and Kyle in her bedroom before Max sees them through the window:
Liz and Kyle awkwardly in bed.
LIZ: So. Any potential girlfriends for Kyle Valenti?
KYLE (thinking about Tess): Maybe. So Evans must've really pissed you off to make you resort to something like this.
LIZ: I told you I can't talk about why I'm doing this.
KYLE: I just figured since I'm giving you my last shred of dignity.
LIZ: I really can't, Kyle.
KYLE: Is it one of those getting the boyfriend jealous so he'll come running back to me things? Of are you just trying to destroy him.
LIZ: Kyle...
KYLE: Right.
They lay there for an awkward silent beat, then:
KYLE: So we have something in common.
LIZ: What's that?
KYLE: We're the only two people I know of who died and were brought back to life by an alien.
Liz looks at him realizing this.
LIZ: That's right.
KYLE: Do you feel different?
LIZ: I do. It's hard to put words to it. I feel...
KYLE: Safe.
LIZ: Yeah.
They look at each other realizing they share something.
KYLE: Max stole you from me. And I will never forgive him for that. But the thing that really gets me is that I can't truly hate him anymore. He's changed me.
LIZ: Me, too.
KYLE (realizing): You're not doing this to hurt him, are you?
LIZ: No.
KYLE: Good.
LIZ: So, Kyle, when he healed you did you see things?
KYLE: See things?
LIZ: Flashes. Images.
[There was aonther scene here, but it was omitted from the script. The rest of the scene is as we saw it.]
In the scene where FMax and Liz are talking on her balcony. Liz is crying and telling FMax that there will never be another him....etc.
LIZ: Don't you realize what you are to me? What you'll always be? You're the love of my life, Max. Everyone else is going to be second best. There will never be another you.
FMax and Liz are drawn to each other now. It's as if they could kiss...
[more of the lines we saw in the final ep]
LIZ: I'll be alone...
FMAX: Maybe. Maybe not. From now on, the future is to be determined. It's what I've always said to you, Liz, we create our own destiny.
Liz is thoughtful. There is a ray of hope. Liz looks at him, for a long beat, then -
LIZ: Could you dance with me?
FMAX: What?
LIZ: I wantto have my wedding dance.
FMax looks at her, her dark soulful eyes...They both have the sense of time running out. As Van Morrison's INTO THE MYSTIC begins, Liz and FMax step toward each other.
ROSWELL PARK:
Max and Tess sit silently on the bench.
TESS: Do you want to talk about it?
MAX: No...
TESS: Do you want me to leave?
The question hangs there. It's about everything. Not just leaving the bench, but Roswell - leaving him.
MAX: No.
This means everything to her...
LIZ'S ROOFTOP:
Liz and FMax dance their wedding dance together...eyes locked...souls locked. The music swells. In slow motion FMax raises his hand to begin to spin Liz into a twirl -
ROSWELL PARK:
In slow motoin Tess reaches out to Max, touches his shoulder. Max allows her to touch him, comforted. This is a defining moment. The moment history changes.
LIZ'S ROOFTOP:
In slow motion a beautiful Liz...she spins around and when she reaches out to join FMax's hand - he is gone. He no longer exists. Liz has changed history. She has just saved the world. And she has never felt sadder.
MADAME VIVIAN'S VOICE:
This is very unusual.
MADAME VIVIAN'S PLACE:
Liz and Madame Vivan.
MV: Last time you were here your future was so clear. Now I don't get a reading at all. Everything hangs in the balance. I can see nothing.
LIZ: It could be a good thing. Maybe Max and I will still be together. I mean, I create my own destiny, right?
Madame Vivian looks at Liz, realizes right now this girl doesn't need a psychic, she needs a friend.
MV: You create your own destiny.
OUTSIDE MADAME VIVIAN'S:
Liz emerges, stands outside, bathed in the red neon light of the word FUTURE blinkingon and off.
Wow, thanks for this, Karen. I wish we could get a script for every ep and see what scenes were cut. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to type this up for us!
"Harvest Moon"....interesting,
Emilie Fan
~THE NONGENERIC ANTIDREAMGIRL~
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(12/18/00 4:09 pm) Reply
Re: The End of the World
Brian, not that I don't want you guys to think that I would type for a hour for you, put I just cut and pasted it from somewhere else. But thanks for thinking I've got that much patience!
I found the whole scene in the granilith chamber interesting. Tess's rant about Max going to hell might not have seemed so out of the blue if we'd've seen that.
The cuts also explain alot of the bloopers - especially the ones when Liz and Kyle are in bed together.
Crashdown used to post cut scenes. I remember seeing some for Leaving Normal. It would be cool to see what was cut. I for one would like to see the original pilot.
Anyway, less than 2 hours until the Christmas ep! (And a month-long wait for the next new ep )
Oh, yeah, and I would have loved to see Max imitating Michael! Edited by: Midwest Max at: 12/18/00 4:12:01 pm
Re: The End of the World
I dont know if any of you saw it, but during the commercials, the roswell cast came on and said happy holidays to everyone. i was just wondering if anybody has a picture of some sort from that cuz I WANT TO SEE IT AGAIN!!!
Re: The End of the World
I've been poking around this desert that used to be my home. Thought I'd take a chance and send a deep space probe out here to see if any intelligent life is listening. Been watching all the reruns on SCIFI and thinking of this place. It used to be a city but now it lies in ruins. "Minutes before the fall," indeed. TEOTW: Sigh........what can be said? Watching these episodes again I find a lot of what I found touching and sacred to be, now, fluffy and contrived. But not so with this....TEOTW....it really holds up. Awright, you can throw out that whole mariachi band thing that really made me cringe this time around, and shirtless chin-up Max - did we realy need something that gratuitous? (Well, I suppose SOME of you still dig that, but REALLY!) Still, a lot of moments that meant something to me back then (a whole 2-3 years ago!!!) still plucked those heart-strings. Liz dazed and looking around after FM disappeared and THAT song still playing. Good God. If only the rest of S2 could have lived up to the promise that was given us in TEOTW. THC - - - OWITCH!!!
More to come y'all (yeah sure, I say that every 9 months) - I just have to take this moment to say hi to Neeners, Vicki, Ryal, Maria, Eddie, and the rest of the crew (I feel I'm forgetting someone)...
And a special shout-out to IMM and MM (Wazzup girly-girls?)
"It's WRONG to be French,"
Emilie Fan Edited by: Emilie Fan at: 2/18/03 7:56:18 pm
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Really good to look at Jason at anytime!!!
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