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radwulf
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Posts: 2002
(2/27/03 2:55 am)


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It seems to me like radwulf is not playing in his usual style either. I think he usually acts like a leader when he's innocent. This is not the case this time. So I'm still keeping my vote on him.

The "leader" playing style has nothing to do with my innocence. How can I play leader when half of the players are not playing, and the other half are voting or fos-ing me?

Remember Jeep's game, I only took the "leader" role once my innocence had been established. You have no valid reasons for keeping that vote on me Diplomat.


Confucius say... War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

Needforspeed001 
Veteran
Posts: 164
(2/27/03 7:25 am)


82
Ok, let me straighten thing up here. first of all my appologies to you Radwulf. AFter i relooked the scenario just now let me type the newest stuff I wa sin a hurry at my earlier post and i didnt notice till now that you unvoted Starmandeluxe in post52. Again my appologies. Now in post 62 Starman gav eup his role, without my pressure, since i only voted him in my post 71. So your sentece there radwulf is not correct, saying that he gave up his role claim because of my and other's pressure on him. And then in post 77 Starman appologises for giving out his role becuase of his email problem. This is what happened and so, i believe that you have wrongfully accused me, if you do not unvote me after this post.
by the way, now im sort of lost regarding who's who,due to all this mixing up.

CIAO:
Keep the rubber side down. A.K.A. Speeddevil.
Be a safe driver!

Edited by: Needforspeed001  at: 2/27/03 7:26:20 am
radwulf
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Posts: 2004
(2/27/03 7:36 am)


83
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So your sentece there radwulf is not correct, saying that he gave up his role claim because of my and other's pressure on him. And then in post 77 Starman appologises for giving out his role becuase of his email problem.

I didn't say he revealed his role because of you. I said he felt pressured to remove all doubt about his role (by explaining the email accident) because you and EC voted him. And you still didn't explain how I've "covered" Beoneknight in the first day.


Confucius say... War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

Edited by: radwulf at: 2/27/03 7:37:18 am
EscapedConvict
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Posts: 264
(2/27/03 8:08 am)


84
STARMANDELUXE:
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Bleh.

I just got an email from the mod, and I apparently sent my target to the wrong email address (please update that though; I sent it to the one in your profile).

Nevermind! You didn't hear anything!


so the reason for revealing your role was to let the moderator know that it might be a mistake in his actions? it's not even related to the actual game?
why coudn't you sent him an email? why did you have to say all this on the topic for everybody else to see? geezz...



I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
Douglas Adams--Author, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Edited by: EscapedConvict at: 2/27/03 8:09:45 am
Needforspeed001 
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Posts: 167
(2/27/03 8:09 am)


84
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I didn't say he revealed his role because of you. I said he felt pressured to remove all doubt about his role (by explaining the email accident) because you and EC voted him.
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Again RAdwulf, you dont make sense.
You just wrote above that he revealed his role because Ec's toe and mine. May i remind you:
____________________________________________________
Now in post 62 Starman gav eup his role, without my pressure, since i only voted him in my post 71.
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Do you understand that i voted him 9 posts after he revelad his role and not before? And besides, that could be a strategy he may use, how would i know he's saying the truth? there is no proof, we just either believe what one posts or not.

NOw regarding your question about Boneknight here it is, after AUrenlay votes him, this is your reply:
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Aurenlay, the insinuation that the question is some sort of a plot to trap townies, is ridiculous. For your information, me and Beoneknight have played a lot of live mafia together, and I've used that question several times to jump start our games--with great success.
____________________________________________________
Doesnt that sound like you are taking Beonekingt under your wings? Well it sound like it to me, but again i have nothing against him, as you can see, i have not voted him.
My vote still stands as it was, no change

CIAO:
Keep the rubber side down. A.K.A. Speeddevil.
Be a safe driver!

radwulf
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Posts: 2005
(2/27/03 8:46 am)


86
EC why are you still voting me? I've explained my reasoning for defending Starmandeluxe, quite satisfactorily. If you think otherwise, explain yourself, if not, withdraw that vote.

Needforspeed, I'm not blaming you for Starman's post 67. I'm blaming you for Starman's post 76! In 76 he completely gave away the fact that he's indeed the doctor by offering the explanation of what happened to his target. Maybe he would have done it anyway, even without your votes on him, maybe not--the fact remains you were bandwagoning the town's doc (we can be 95% certain of this).

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Doesnt that sound like you are taking Beonekingt under your wings? Well it sound like it to me, but again i have nothing against him, as you can see, i have not voted him.
I've seen that question used with great success against mafia in live games. Therefore I did not agree with Aurenlay that the question was necessarily a plot to catch townies. It was just as likely (if not more) that Beoneknight used it with good intentions. For someone who's following Escaped Convict like a lost puppy you have a lot of guts to tell me I've taken Beoneknight under my wings.


Confucius say... War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

Edited by: radwulf at: 2/27/03 8:47:19 am
andreeahef
Cenzor
Ministrul propagandei

Posts: 990
(2/27/03 9:16 am)


87.
:offtopic I'm a girl!

Let's be serious for a moment now, do I even LOOK guilty?

Needforspeed001 
Veteran
Posts: 169
(2/27/03 6:37 pm)


88

ok Radwulf, enough is enough, wou dont leave me with much choise, after making me even more angry at you after your last post. I must be careful cause like your name says you are a wulf.
First off, i am not following EC at all. I have my own way of finding things out, and i dont need anyone to tell me what to do. I decide wether i think that someone is correct or not.Just like you do. On the other hand, there are plenty of people that are not envolved in this game, and i know lots of them look at the post, but dont post anything cause its too much work. Anywas that is not my problem, it sounds like a personal problem. But this does lead us to only a few players that play on regulare basis, thus information is very slow and so is the progress and unsure.
Soemthing else
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the fact remains you were bandwagoning the town's doc (we can be 95% certain of this).
____________________________________________________ So know im bandwagoning the Town's doc, ok not only that this is a ridicoulsly bold statement to make Radwulf, but you are out of your league on this one.
It seems to me that the Doc is incompetent, so far anyways, he was covering someone and that persone died anyways, that he did mention. I have nothing else to say about Starman, and i do not care whatever his role may bee, cause you know what? Perhaps the mafia will kill him anyways this night, knowing that he is a doctor. Now if he does not die, that means that he is not a doctor in fact in which case there is only a slim chance of him beeing a doctor.
Anyways you may vote for me as much as you want, you are way out of your league and tottaly wrong. AS for your postings about me all i have to say is the following, and i dont need any more on this topic. You have the spotlight.
UNVOTE STARMANDELUXE
VOTE RADWULF

CIAO:
Keep the rubber side down. A.K.A. Speeddevil.
Be a safe driver!

Edited by: Needforspeed001  at: 2/27/03 6:43:03 pm
radwulf
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Posts: 2006
(2/27/03 6:55 pm)


89
Now you're being stupid Needforspeed!

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First off, i am not following EC at all.

Of course you're not! You only accuse and vote the same people he does! But when I defend one idea of Beoneknight's, that's taking him under my wings.

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So know im bandwagoning the Town's doc, ok not only that this is a ridicoulsly bold statement to make Radwulf

Ridiculous? Let me put it at the level of a 3rd grader, maybe you'll get it then. Starmandeluxe = DOCTOR. Why? Because no Mafia is so stupid to claim doc when the real doc can step in at any moment and denounce him. When you voted Starmandeluxe after EC did, you've bandwagoned the town's doc, get it?

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It seems to me that the Doc is incompetent, so far anyways, he was covering someone and that persone died anyways, that he did mention.

Read his freakin explanation!!!!!!!! Post 76! He sent the target email to the wrong address. He tried to save Aurenlay, but the moderator never got his email.

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and i do not care whatever his role may bee, cause you know what? Perhaps the mafia will kill him anyways this night, knowing that he is a doctor. Now if he does not die, that means that he is not a doctor in fact in which case there is only a slim chance of him beeing a doctor.

So according to your idiotic statement, all the mafia has to do is not kill Starman tonight (if he's the doc) and he'll get lynched tomorrow? Good Lord, your "logic" is unbelievable! Starmandeluxe's innocence is based on one very simple thing: in a 12 person game there is one (and usually only 1) doctor. No Mafia would ever claim that role unless on the verge of being lynched, which is not the case here. Starman claimed doc, no one dennounced him, ergo, he's doc--we can be as sure of this as we can ever be of someone's role in a game of Mafia.

Your previous post is the most astounding CrapLogic I've heard in a long while, an insult to your inteligence. Please try to do better.
confirm vote: NEEDFORSPEED


Confucius say... War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

aurenLay
Biban
Posts: 64
(2/27/03 8:36 pm)


90
:offtopic WHat?? So I wasn't supposed to die?! That sucks big time man! But now that everyone knows my role, it doesn't matter anyways...grrr. Go get em townies! :offtopic

Green Crayons
Biban carutzash
Posts: 15
(2/27/03 10:11 pm)


91
Frankly, i dont know how NFS usually plays, but he still seems to be the most suspicious to me, just from the general content of his posts. Oh, and that whole voting for the doctor (regardless of how competent or not he was) thing didn't go over to well with me, either.

Vote: NeedforSpeed
FOS: EC, who seems to have be on a similiar wave-length as NFS. Nothing solid though. Thus, only a "gut feeling" FOS.

EscapedConvict
Admin
Posts: 269
(2/27/03 10:33 pm)


92
first off i don't see the point of radwulf and needforspeed having this pointless debate!
there is one person that is responsible for STARMAN'S stupidity and this is him!

you guys and specially you radwulf are pushing this thing to far ! just drop it...it does not do us any good...if he is what he is claiming to be , starman is probably dead already!

green crayons and radwulf , since when voting for the same person means that you are in the same team with the other guy?
well acording to your logic i could acuse you two of being associated!

***FOS : GREEN CRAYONS ***** vote : RADWULF

i don;t know needforspeed and wouldn't like to bond my destiny to his but honestly if i were to pick the mafia guy betwen needforspeed and radwulf i would probably go with the second one



I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
Douglas Adams--Author, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Edited by: EscapedConvict at: 2/27/03 10:45:02 pm
radwulf
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Posts: 2010
(2/27/03 10:41 pm)


93
Are you kidding me?? You voted me for what you believed was a slight inconsistency in my defense of the town's doc (which mind you I have explained since) and you expect me to overlook Needforspeed's mind boggling, absurd, CrapLogic ridden excuses for voting me?

****** Finger of Suspicion: ESCAPED CONVICT ****** You need to start putting some real logic behind your accusations & votes, buddy.


Confucius say... War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

EscapedConvict
Admin
Posts: 270
(2/27/03 11:20 pm)


94
yeah that's you alright, radwulf, instead of admiting that this argument it's not worth you are ready to pick on everyone who dares to confront you! keep on...good job

my vote stays!



I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
Douglas Adams--Author, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

radwulf
Admin
Posts: 2011
(2/27/03 11:36 pm)


95
Admit what? That he's NOT using crap logic to vote for me? You are starting to sound just as ridiculous as him! He's giving the most absurd reasons to vote for me, and you expect me to say nothing??? If I didn't shred his "logic" to pieces you'd probably vote me for not defending vigorously enough, "like my usual self". Give me a freakin break already! I'm still waiting to hear a valid, logical reason for your vote.


Confucius say... War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

Edited by: radwulf at: 2/27/03 11:36:48 pm
EscapedConvict
Admin
Posts: 272
(2/28/03 12:32 am)


96
since your reason on voting needforspeed is so full of logic and good thinking (notice the sarcasm) i guess you don't deserve my vote , right?

well this charade could go on without me! honestly i don't have anything against you besides the fact that you keep pushing this non-sense discussion in a very suspicious way and the fact that you were after lynching aurenlay yesterday! well, that's not enough for me to accuse someone of being mafia but , by all means, you are on my black list!

the point is radwulf that neither needforspeed or I don;t have any fault in the STARMAN incident no matter how hard you try to make us look guilty!

unvote: radwulf

green crayons may i ask why do you keep harassing needforspeed? you bandvagoned him yesterday and you are doing it now! any good reasons at all?

in post 55 you were voting for needforspeed after he already had a vote on him...and now you vote follows radwulf's

can you at least come up with a good reason on your own? what did needforspeed do that you want him out so badly?



I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
Douglas Adams--Author, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Needforspeed001 
Veteran
Posts: 170
(2/28/03 1:24 am)


97
Ok, as i have said, i have nothing to ad to this topic,(radwulf's ridiculous accusations) and that stands.
Now, Ec, thank you for standing up for me, i appreciate it
Green crayons? I really like players of your caliber. Like i mentioned earlier today, there are these players that just hop on in but only post when they dislike somebody, in which case that is me. Other than that, they do not exist. HmmTalking about crap logic as Radwulf so eloquently calles it. 100 %
What about following radwulf's vote Green Crayons? Do you actually think, before you vote? I really dont think so. Give facts not hints like weird way of posting and such.
Well anyways, let me tell you this much FYI!!!!!!
Go ahead kill me and find out who really i am (was) in case that the town goes by voting idiotically and not by reasoning.
I myself, know who i am and im confortable with whatever you decide to do. The choice is your's but dont regret afterward. Like i said, you may think i have a different way of posting, but hey, thats just me. No reason to get angry about it like Radwulf did today and sound completely out of order.
Order must be restored, no matter what the situation may be. Isnt that right Radwulf? You should know, u the expert... And this i ment.
Keep your heads cool. Think...

CIAO:
Keep the rubber side down. A.K.A. Speeddevil.
Be a safe driver!

Edited by: Needforspeed001  at: 2/28/03 1:27:38 am
StarmanDeluxe
Neinregistrat
(2/28/03 1:41 am)


98
EC: I did not feel it was appropriate to email the moderator, in case this was simply some gameplay mechanic.

Diplomat A
Biban
Posts: 85
(2/28/03 2:34 am)


99
Between Radwulf and NFS, I think radwulf is making more sense. NFS seems to be ignoring some facts and not using very good logic in his reasoning, which I won't go into detail about. But he's being just forward enough to make me think he's most likely not a bad guy. Radwulf does make a lot of sense, regardless of his role.

Since no one answered my question about aurenLay, I'm assuming no one else thought she acted suspiciously. NFS did mention that it was bad thinking in post 46, but he didn't think it made her mafia.

Radwulf, who do you think is most likely bad now, besides Needforspeed?

Also, StarmanDeluxe, it would have been smarter to say you're an incompetent doc instead of saying your e-mail was misdirected. Now that we all know you're probably a real doc, I would be surprised if you don't get killed tonight.

andreeahef
Cenzor
Ministrul propagandei

Posts: 994
(2/28/03 3:01 am)


100.
VOTE COUNT
radwulf (Diplomat A, Needforspeed001)
needforspeed001 (radwulf, GreenCrayons)
beoneknight (Goddess of Nin)

Let's be serious for a moment now, do I even LOOK guilty?

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